What is post-capitalism? How do we get there?

As Paul Mason writes in Postcapitalism, we are experiencing an increasing tension between ‘non-market forms of production’ and traditional capitalism. ‘Technologically, we are headed for zero-price goods, unmeasurable work, an exponential takeoff in productivity and the extensive automation of processes. Socially, we are trapped in a world of monopolies, inefficiency, the ruins of a finance-dominated free market and a proliferation of “bullshit jobs”.’ The potential, Mason believes, is for ‘the abolition of the market and its replacement by postcapitalism’. If this transition is a desirable goal, what does it look like and how do we bring it about? 


Kingsley L. DennisDaniel, I summarized some of my thinking on this in the following points: 

- A mixture of both localized and global economic systems will emerge that operate together.
- Governments will learn that a new form of economics must take into account not perpetual growth but sustainable limits and domestic well-being.
- Debt will no longer be the principle economic driver.
- Individuals the world over will contribute in funding the projects they relate to and agree with.
- Off-shoring and tax havens will be monitored and, in most cases, dismantled.
- The new economics will shrug off the old image of being a source of inequality and a major cause of injustice.

For more, see - http://www.phoenix-generation.com/new-economics-…

Annie CharnleyUniversal basic income would free people up from bullshit jobs to do work that matters to them and share their unique gifts that could very well improve the world. Also spreading the word of living an intentional life through minimalism. 

Michal StefanowMy feeling (take it with a pinch of salt) - capitalism is here to stay. Current capitalists are invested in preserving status quo. One of the ways to detach is to operate within capitalism and save money, becoming resilient and have transferable skills... (not shuffling papers but something tangible)

I'd happily detach myself but I don't see much of a support network... Even a couple living in a van and selling hand-made goods at Boom festival - it's hard work to have their stall in 40C (104F) all day - I respect (and envy) their lifestyle but it comes with sacrifices...

Alex FreitasA lot of utopian-capitalism and fatalist-capitalism going on in these threads... Post-capitalism will only be an idea worth talking about once we all understand what capitalism is. Annie and Kingsley: both of you described capitalist models, though they were utopian models of capitalism. If any of us are even asking about what kind of society a stable future would require, we first have to understand what the global market is doing to nation-states (which is also why we see rising trends in nationalism and populism), and we have to acknowledge that the market (as well as the apparatus of the state) has reached its limits in management when we speak of the slippery issues of ecological meltdown, biotechnology, and even intellectual property.

The welfare-state of Western Europe is increasingly in decline, the 20th-century model of state-socialism ("Communism") failed, and the crisis of 2008 WAS the crisis of unregulated capitalism, and we are now witnessing the decay of the nation-state in the face of an increasingly globalized market, a global market which is also reaching its limits in being able to contain fields (once again, fields such as intellectual property, ecology, etc.). I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but we are not going to find national solutions to transnational problems.

Kingsley's vision of a global capitalism without large-scale resentment is just as impossible as his vision of a capitalist system that isn't based on debt (capitalist systems REQUIRE mass debt however, because capitalism is a system of overproduction and underconsumption; also there is no reason to assume that capitalists will not sabotage free-industries, as they have sabotaged co-operatives who were much of less of a threat). Annie's vision of a capitalist economy with a national UBI to legitimize it, is actually just another version of the welfare-state utopia. Michal's vision of rugged individualism is a dead-end for the rest of society, for reasons that I hope are obvious to everyone. All that being sad, I am sorry to say that Michal actually gave the most realistic answer out of everyone here. Now it will be my pleasure to give a more useful answer than Michal, and hopefully just as realistic.

Inequality is going to increase rapidly, globally. The market will not be able to contain biotechnology: this is actually a threat to everyone (bioweapons, bio-tyranny, etc.). The market already can not contain intellectual property (I would argue that we have already reached some kind of weird communism, meaning common property, when it comes to the property of music and video). I don't see any groups anywhere in the world that are in a revolutionary position, at this point. But I think that is because we are still trapped within thinking at local levels and national levels, rather than thinking at transnational levels. Any solutions to our global problems will be addressed through universal (transnational) solidarity, directed at defending the global Commons.